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« on: January 02, 2025, 11:11:58 PM »

This guy did a test to see if it makes a difference to bearing wear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ_Gt0yPlO0
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2025, 05:15:47 AM »

He must be putting that filter on a locomotive engine!  The one on my RV engine (Ford V10) is about the same size as my Z1 filter.

I once had an issue with oil moving to the cams, so I left the cover off and cranked the engine.  I had oil spurting everywhere before the engine even caught. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2025, 08:42:09 AM »

The oil filter in my truck is tiny, same one as in my Subaru, and is fitted horizontal.  If I pre fill it with the 100ml that it would hold, it would all spill out by the time the filter was sup on.  The oil filter in my  Subaru is vertical on top of the engine.  Again, all of the oil would spill out.  All 100ml of it.  An insignificant amount.  The filter on my Yamaha is also horizontal and smaller yet.  Probably the only way pre filling a filter would work is if it is fitted vertically and screwed on from the bottom.

Okay, full disclosure, I wrote the above before I actually watched the video.  I’ve never pre-filled oil filters.  Never even considered it.  Will probably never pre-fill an oil filter in future.  I’ve run engines for 100s of thousands of kilometres doing oil changes at manufacturers recommended intervals using (gasp!) Fram oil filters.  Never had oil related engine issues.  

The only time I had engine failure was on my first car.  A 1975 Honda Civic that I bought new.  Had piston ring failure at 100,000 miles.  Yes, miles, not kilometres.  I beat that car like a stolen mule right from the get go.  Not an oil related issue.

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2025, 02:42:04 PM »



 The filter on my 4litre v6 Ranger the filter is upright, meaning if i choose i can fill it right to the top. And I do fill it 3/4 full or more.
   While i do not think main bearings would be damaged during initial startup, I have audible evidence that an unfilled or lightly filled filter does affect hydraulic chain tensioners tightening up quickly. On my Ranger there will be a 3/4 - 1 second loose chain sound as the filter gets filled up, which does not happen if the filter is filled up or when just starting the engine. Same for my R1200GS, just a millisecond of chatter before oil pressure pressurizes the hydraulic tensioners.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2025, 08:13:50 PM »

You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2025, 09:47:00 PM »

   I’d never tell
You what to do Shaun!

  And I’m definitely not your dad!!
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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