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« on: August 05, 2024, 08:22:30 AM »

  I've been reading numerous road tests/reviews about the MP-3, Three wheeled motorcycle models from PIAGGIO.  Rather than give up riding I'd like to consider one of these rigs. Has anyone on the forum had any experience with them?  Can you advise me of any dealerships in B.C. or even in Alberta that carry them. I've contacted a couple on the lower mainland, but they rarely have any stock, and said you had to order one. Without being able to inspect or ride first?  Not too bloody likely for that sort of investment. The Can-Ams are very expensive, and apparently a bit tricky to ride compared to motorcycles. The Trikes built from Harleys, and Gold Wings, don't appeal to me. The MP3 units tilt around corners like a normal M/C so should be easy to adapt to. I'd appreciate any insight you may have.  Been riding since 1961 and without a bike, life just wouldn't be worth much.
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 2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650                                                         




 
"SOME" PAST RIDES: In no particular order
51 Matchless 500 single      53 AJS 500 single
62 Triumph T-100SS          57 Triumph T-100R
66 Norton N-15 - 750 Scrambler
68 Honda CB 450               68 Honda CB-250
69 Honda CL 450               71 Suzuki 350
73 Suzuki GT-550 Triple      71(?) Honda SL-350
73 Honda XL-250               76 Honda CB-400F
77 Yamaha XS 500             80 Suzuki GS-550E
81 Suzuki GS-750E             81 Suzuki GS1100E           
81 Honda CB-900C
with Hondaline Tour Pak     '02 Honda CB-900F(Hornet 919)
'90 Honda ST-1100 (collector status)
'83 Suzuki GS-750 T  (collector status)        '82 Suzuki GS-550 Katana
'80 Suzuki GS-850 G          '80 Suzuki GS-1000G(collector status)
'06-Suzuki DL-650 V-Strom     '81 Suzuki GS-550 "T" (collector status)
2009 Suzuki Burgman 650 Mega Scooter 
'82 Yamaha Seca 650
'07 Yamaha FJR-1300         82 Suzuki GS-850G-Collector status
'86 Suzuki GS-400ES          82 Suzuki GS-650GL-Collector status
'79 Honda CBX                  82 Suzuki GS-650-G-Collector status
'81 Honda CBX (x2)           82 Honda 450 Hawk
98 Triumph Trophy 900     06 Kawasaki Concours
'05 Suzuki Burgman 650(Super Scooter)
2018 Suzuki Burgman Executive 650 Scooter
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2024, 08:48:49 AM »



  Aside from the 2 wheels versus 3 wheels , versus 2 wheels in the front, versus 2 wheels in the back,  I don’t place much confidence in products directly from PIAGGIO these days. Of course Moto Guzzi , Aprilia, Derbi, and many other brands are under PIAGGIO ownership, but some of those still ‘do their own thing’, and are only under the greater financial stability umbrella of Piaggio.

  3 wheeled motorcycles, 2 wheels at front, and able to steer like a bike in typical counter steer, there are two out there. Well, 3, but the Chinese made unit should be avoided because “Chinasshoe”.   So we have the PIAGGIO MP3. And the Yamaha Niken. Without question the Yamaha is far superior in every measure you could compare things. Essential Yamaha Tracer, highly superior Yamaha engine, electrics, everything really, including dealership status.

  Or you could buy a Honda Monkey, super easy to ride, does 120 km hr, full
Electric safety package.
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 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2024, 03:25:36 AM »

I think Yamaha made a similar product a few years ago.   And I've seen at least one Goldwing conversion.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2024, 08:34:24 AM »

https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/reviews/yamaha-niken-gt-first-ride-review-2023/



https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/piaggio/mp3-300/2022/
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'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2024, 02:12:18 PM »

Based on my customer service experience with a new Piaggio product.

Piaggio can eat an entire bag of dicks.

I'll buy a used Guzzi again, all day long but they're never getting another cent from me on a new machine.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2024, 04:14:04 PM »

I've heard similar reports from numerous others.   I read a number of reports on the Yamaha TRICITY, and they were all positive.  So I went into the local Yamaha dealer to inquire.  NOT coming to North America was his reply. There are hundreds, if not Thousands of us old buggers, that can't handle big bikes any more and those TriCity rigs would likely sell decently.  Gold Wing Trikes, Harley Trikes, and of corse Can Am's are all WAAAAY too expensive for us pensioners.
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 2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650                                                         




 
"SOME" PAST RIDES: In no particular order
51 Matchless 500 single      53 AJS 500 single
62 Triumph T-100SS          57 Triumph T-100R
66 Norton N-15 - 750 Scrambler
68 Honda CB 450               68 Honda CB-250
69 Honda CL 450               71 Suzuki 350
73 Suzuki GT-550 Triple      71(?) Honda SL-350
73 Honda XL-250               76 Honda CB-400F
77 Yamaha XS 500             80 Suzuki GS-550E
81 Suzuki GS-750E             81 Suzuki GS1100E           
81 Honda CB-900C
with Hondaline Tour Pak     '02 Honda CB-900F(Hornet 919)
'90 Honda ST-1100 (collector status)
'83 Suzuki GS-750 T  (collector status)        '82 Suzuki GS-550 Katana
'80 Suzuki GS-850 G          '80 Suzuki GS-1000G(collector status)
'06-Suzuki DL-650 V-Strom     '81 Suzuki GS-550 "T" (collector status)
2009 Suzuki Burgman 650 Mega Scooter 
'82 Yamaha Seca 650
'07 Yamaha FJR-1300         82 Suzuki GS-850G-Collector status
'86 Suzuki GS-400ES          82 Suzuki GS-650GL-Collector status
'79 Honda CBX                  82 Suzuki GS-650-G-Collector status
'81 Honda CBX (x2)           82 Honda 450 Hawk
98 Triumph Trophy 900     06 Kawasaki Concours
'05 Suzuki Burgman 650(Super Scooter)
2018 Suzuki Burgman Executive 650 Scooter
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2024, 04:49:44 PM »

Is the Vstrom just not working out, or thinking in the future ?
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2024, 05:47:00 PM »

Enjoying the V-Strom.  But after having a Tip Over, (no damage, just a scuffed engine guard, which I've touched up) and finding it a bit difficult to maneuver at slow speeds in Gravel, I'm riding SCARED of dropping it. Don't want to stop riding, but reality is, I need something lighter and easier to handle.  I've already lowered the Strom, and cut down the seat so it's not a problem with flat footing it.  More a problem of lacking confidence in my ability to handle it. I've stopped topping up the 20 litre gas tank to help keep the weight more manageable.  Appreciate any insight you have.
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 2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650                                                         




 
"SOME" PAST RIDES: In no particular order
51 Matchless 500 single      53 AJS 500 single
62 Triumph T-100SS          57 Triumph T-100R
66 Norton N-15 - 750 Scrambler
68 Honda CB 450               68 Honda CB-250
69 Honda CL 450               71 Suzuki 350
73 Suzuki GT-550 Triple      71(?) Honda SL-350
73 Honda XL-250               76 Honda CB-400F
77 Yamaha XS 500             80 Suzuki GS-550E
81 Suzuki GS-750E             81 Suzuki GS1100E           
81 Honda CB-900C
with Hondaline Tour Pak     '02 Honda CB-900F(Hornet 919)
'90 Honda ST-1100 (collector status)
'83 Suzuki GS-750 T  (collector status)        '82 Suzuki GS-550 Katana
'80 Suzuki GS-850 G          '80 Suzuki GS-1000G(collector status)
'06-Suzuki DL-650 V-Strom     '81 Suzuki GS-550 "T" (collector status)
2009 Suzuki Burgman 650 Mega Scooter 
'82 Yamaha Seca 650
'07 Yamaha FJR-1300         82 Suzuki GS-850G-Collector status
'86 Suzuki GS-400ES          82 Suzuki GS-650GL-Collector status
'79 Honda CBX                  82 Suzuki GS-650-G-Collector status
'81 Honda CBX (x2)           82 Honda 450 Hawk
98 Triumph Trophy 900     06 Kawasaki Concours
'05 Suzuki Burgman 650(Super Scooter)
2018 Suzuki Burgman Executive 650 Scooter
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2024, 06:27:44 PM »

Have you looked at smaller bikes?  Maybe a Versys 300?  There is one for sale in Lillooet.  And what happened to the 550 Suzuki?
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2024, 07:08:41 PM »

300 Versys is a great option! 

 And again, don’t disregard Honda’s Monkey series. Very capable, incredibly easy to ride, full electronics safety package.  Some are 4 speed semi automatic , some 5 speed manual. 120km hr capability, 100 mpg.
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'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2024, 10:17:53 PM »

Sold the 550 Suzuki and Actually made a few $$ on it. I've been reading all the reviews and road tests on the 400 and under sized machines.  I'll have to take a few test rides.  There is a new Triumph 400 and a new Royal Enfield 450 worth looking at.  I currently have a Very Low mileage (10K) Suzuki GS400 in pieces in my workshop. Poor thing was badly neglected.  It's my winter project to resurrect it, and maybe ride it, come spring. Need something to occupy my time in winter.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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 2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650                                                         




 
"SOME" PAST RIDES: In no particular order
51 Matchless 500 single      53 AJS 500 single
62 Triumph T-100SS          57 Triumph T-100R
66 Norton N-15 - 750 Scrambler
68 Honda CB 450               68 Honda CB-250
69 Honda CL 450               71 Suzuki 350
73 Suzuki GT-550 Triple      71(?) Honda SL-350
73 Honda XL-250               76 Honda CB-400F
77 Yamaha XS 500             80 Suzuki GS-550E
81 Suzuki GS-750E             81 Suzuki GS1100E           
81 Honda CB-900C
with Hondaline Tour Pak     '02 Honda CB-900F(Hornet 919)
'90 Honda ST-1100 (collector status)
'83 Suzuki GS-750 T  (collector status)        '82 Suzuki GS-550 Katana
'80 Suzuki GS-850 G          '80 Suzuki GS-1000G(collector status)
'06-Suzuki DL-650 V-Strom     '81 Suzuki GS-550 "T" (collector status)
2009 Suzuki Burgman 650 Mega Scooter 
'82 Yamaha Seca 650
'07 Yamaha FJR-1300         82 Suzuki GS-850G-Collector status
'86 Suzuki GS-400ES          82 Suzuki GS-650GL-Collector status
'79 Honda CBX                  82 Suzuki GS-650-G-Collector status
'81 Honda CBX (x2)           82 Honda 450 Hawk
98 Triumph Trophy 900     06 Kawasaki Concours
'05 Suzuki Burgman 650(Super Scooter)
2018 Suzuki Burgman Executive 650 Scooter
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2024, 05:40:39 AM »

I would stay away from Royal Enfield. I just turned one down with a broken rod at 10k. Owner is pretty disappointed with the whole experience.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2024, 08:17:23 AM »

Wife unit has a Vespa 300GTS and loves it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2024, 11:37:50 AM »


  My Brother-in Law's experience with purchase of a brand new Royal Enfield, it's complete engine destruction within 700 kms, because of faulty manufacture,,,,,it's relative "inconsistency" with the local dealer,,,,,,,was so FU##### bad, I strongly will say if you buy a Royal Enfield, you plainly deserve any and all grief that will most likely be in your future.
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2024, 05:59:42 PM »

I see a lot of RE product for sale with very low KM's.

 You have been able to adjust the clutch cable at the handlebar for 50 years on most bikes, not on the RE Himalayan...The ignition switch mechanically felt like it was made from wood. The owner doesn't know what to do with the bike. A 4k bike running, it likely needs 2500 in parts/shipping never mind labour if you are not handy.

Ron, have you considered a sv650, same drivetrain as the vstrom but quite a bit lower. I would be concerned most bikes under 500cc will be a bit breathless over 110kms...?
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