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paulh
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« on: May 11, 2024, 08:32:00 AM »

Would anyone happen to have a stator for an 1977 honda xl 250?
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2024, 01:10:47 PM »

I have a couple for Z1's if they are the same.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2024, 09:43:41 AM »

Thanks but I think these stators are specific for an xl 250
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024, 02:08:08 PM »

Thanks but I think these stators are specific for an xl 250


I know you do not want to hear this, buit a pair or stator coils for a '77 XL250 just sold on Ebay....in Powell River....on Saturday.

I sifted thru my stuff, but no XL stuff.
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Past:  '82 Suzuki GS400E; '82 Suzuki GS750E; '81 Yamaha Virago 750; '82 Suzuki GS650GL; '77 Yamaha DT250; '80 GS 850; '86 Kawasaki ZG1000; '78 XS400; 1971 Motobecane Mobylette; 1980 Yamaha SR250; various parts/project bikes, 2004 ZRX 1200; 1977 CB750K; '73 Triumph TR5T (Vintage Plate) .
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2024, 08:19:32 PM »

Do people still have these re-wound ? I had one done many years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2024, 05:52:30 AM »

Getting very hard to find anyone with that skill any more. I used to do some but don’t even keep a supply of varnished wire around to do this with. Just too hard to obtain then very labour intensive work.  Nobody wants to pay someone to do anything with their hands any more.
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'82 RD 350LC, '84 VFR1000F, '51 Ariel Square Four, '81 Honda C70 Deluxe, '70 BSA A65 Thunderbolt Bobber, '66 Ducati 250 Monza, '75 Triumph Trident T160, '56 Ariel Red Hunter VH500 (plated)
'71 BSA B50SS, '71 Commando 750, '72 Norton Roadster 750 Combat, '74 NORVIL 850, '77 RE Bullet, '51 Ariel Square 4(collector plates)
rolling,  '68 441 Victor Special, '69 441 Victor Special, '76 Yamaha RD 400, '48 BSA A7 500 Twin, '71 Suzuki Stinger T125
rebuilding, '68 A65 Thunderbolt, '48 BSA A7 500 Twin,  '69 Norton S type 750, '71 Norton Commando 750, (2) '63-65 Honda CA200 Sport Touring, '78 Honda CT90, '36 Ariel Red  Hunter VH500 twin-port,’51 Ariel NH350 twin-port
waiting (5) D1/D7/D14/TrailBronc - BSA Bantams, '67 A65 Spitfire, '66 441 Victor Enduro, (2) '61 DM100C Ducati Cadet, (2) '76 Kawasaki KH400, '70 Bultaco Mk3 Lobito 125, (6) 59 to 63 Tiger Cubs, '74 Ducati 450 Scrambler,'69 BSA Rocket 3, '51 rigid and '53 sprung BSA C10's, '56 Ariel SQ4, '49 Ariel SQ4, '32 Ariel SB31 550cc SideValve
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2024, 08:43:42 AM »

Maybe these guys could rewind your old one it might be worth a call.

https://rmstator.com/en_ca/
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2024, 11:22:37 AM »

Maybe these guys could rewind your old one it might be worth a call.

https://rmstator.com/en_ca/

Yeah, they may be some help.  I was going to mention them, but did not see any XL250 parts mentioned on their site.
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Past:  '82 Suzuki GS400E; '82 Suzuki GS750E; '81 Yamaha Virago 750; '82 Suzuki GS650GL; '77 Yamaha DT250; '80 GS 850; '86 Kawasaki ZG1000; '78 XS400; 1971 Motobecane Mobylette; 1980 Yamaha SR250; various parts/project bikes, 2004 ZRX 1200; 1977 CB750K; '73 Triumph TR5T (Vintage Plate) .
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2024, 01:46:01 PM »

Saw some options on eBay. You will need the original part number as there seems to be a variety but prices were reasonable it seems mostly out of China but it will get you going ther was a company called Bruce&Shark that quoted in cad and free shipping too
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'82 RD 350LC, '84 VFR1000F, '51 Ariel Square Four, '81 Honda C70 Deluxe, '70 BSA A65 Thunderbolt Bobber, '66 Ducati 250 Monza, '75 Triumph Trident T160, '56 Ariel Red Hunter VH500 (plated)
'71 BSA B50SS, '71 Commando 750, '72 Norton Roadster 750 Combat, '74 NORVIL 850, '77 RE Bullet, '51 Ariel Square 4(collector plates)
rolling,  '68 441 Victor Special, '69 441 Victor Special, '76 Yamaha RD 400, '48 BSA A7 500 Twin, '71 Suzuki Stinger T125
rebuilding, '68 A65 Thunderbolt, '48 BSA A7 500 Twin,  '69 Norton S type 750, '71 Norton Commando 750, (2) '63-65 Honda CA200 Sport Touring, '78 Honda CT90, '36 Ariel Red  Hunter VH500 twin-port,’51 Ariel NH350 twin-port
waiting (5) D1/D7/D14/TrailBronc - BSA Bantams, '67 A65 Spitfire, '66 441 Victor Enduro, (2) '61 DM100C Ducati Cadet, (2) '76 Kawasaki KH400, '70 Bultaco Mk3 Lobito 125, (6) 59 to 63 Tiger Cubs, '74 Ducati 450 Scrambler,'69 BSA Rocket 3, '51 rigid and '53 sprung BSA C10's, '56 Ariel SQ4, '49 Ariel SQ4, '32 Ariel SB31 550cc SideValve
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2024, 08:28:30 PM »

  Got one from Wolfgang. Looks like Japanese Shindegan from a distance, but it’s China.
  Gonna check with this guy, only deals with new Guaranteed Shindegan, and the latest  Mofset technology’.
 
 https://roadstercycle.com/
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'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
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 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2024, 05:40:52 PM »

Do people still have these re-wound ? I had one done many years ago.

I rewound my own once (for a KZ1300).  The local electric motor rebuild shop didn't want to do it, but they gave me the wire for free and even dipped and baked it for me when it was done.  I simply unwound the wire, counting the number of turns, then wound on the new wire.  Aside from being hard on the fingers, it wasn't difficult and worked like a charm.
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2024, 09:50:05 PM »



  I ordered a complete ‘super kit’ which includes new Shindegen with MOSFET  technology, and all hookups for ‘almost’ plug and play. The unit easily deals with 450 watt stator, so my 35 yr old 240 watt unit is an easy game. 
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2024, 07:59:35 PM »

  Picked up the new super MOSFET reg/rec kit today, a day before Canada Border services goes on strike. US Customs guy was super interested in what bike this was for, tried his darndest to say 'Laverda' in his Texas drawl. Asked why I like lining up at long lineups [2 cars] then grinned. Wished me luck with the bike. So glad to have a US shipping address the last 27 yrs, $9 delivery, $3 mailbox fee, no cross border brokerage BS and stupid fees. $172 US for the complete kit, dude at the Cdn Nexus booth smiled and waved "have a great day". Gasoline for the truck at $3.45 us gallon, [$1.26cdn] the best reuben sandwich in the entire pacific northwest in downtown Lynden,,,,,completely empty roads sprinkled with very courteous drivers that actually use their turn signals and stop at stop signs,,,,,,,,,unlike this 3rd word insanity we seem to be fermenting here. I got to start riding down there more again.

   Now I will enter into my weakest technical skill, wiring. 
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2024, 08:44:59 AM »



  The new Shindegen MOSFET reg/rec is a substantial devise size wise. It actually is going to take a bit of thought to install the unit on the Laverda, there isn't alot of space to install it. I'll probably need to make an aluminium plate and hang it from the rear section somewhere. So,,,,as a means to running this machine this season, I took another look at the unit Wolfgang sent me. It does fit in the original location of the previous reg/rec, and the wires do make sense if you are not intimidated by electrical wires like I am. It only took 20 minutes to install it. I fired up the engine with multimeter on the battery, and recorded the voltage of the battery at the below rates, all with headlights on:

 1100 rpm - 12.2 volts
 1500 rpm - 13.6 volts
 2500 rpm - 14.1 volts
 3500 rpm - 13.6 volts

  It's interesting that the reg/rec is allowing input into the battery with a blip high, then regulates down as the rpm goes into /cruising rpm.

 I'll be checking this reglarlyto see that my installation stays connected, and that the devise does not prematurely 'delete' itself.
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2024, 12:03:56 PM »

Steve, I found a piece of alloy to mount your new regulator. 6”x3”x1/4” thick. Will that do, if so I will bring it to coffee next Wednesday.
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