Bicycle ride Friday?

[Steve G.]

  What you’ve pointed out with non vehicle  electric leisure machines can easily sum up the state of the entire society regarding lack of responsibility, lack of social order, lack of etiquette. Try driving highway #1 from, say, New West to Abbotsford, and witness exactly what you summed up , stupid idiots on full display.
 

  Policing the electric 1 and 2 wheeled situation would be impossible. All those homeless dudes on ‘almost motorcycles’, they have no license, ID, and no inclination to pay any kind of fine ever.

  To me, the most carnage I’ve seen is the young kids on the stand up e scooters, with the 6” wheels. Inherently unstable, dangerous, add stupid teenager and skinned elbows are guaranteed.

 Basic physical skills of humans in western society has dropped enormously the last 25-30 yrs. We have nobody but ourselves to blame.

[kilowop]

Compared to some of my acqaintences, you're an optimist.

[hardrockminer]

I have no issue with rules and licensing.  But I think dedicated paths for ebikes or for bikes in general would help with safety.  Here in Chase I ride on the shoulder on town roads and am often surprised by cars or trucks coming close enough I can touch them.  A year or so ago I was on the road by the gas station, signalling a left turn.  A car tried to pass me and almost ran me over, knocking me down and busting my helmet.