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« Reply #165 on: January 03, 2024, 04:10:08 AM »
I ask about braided lines because I’ve read read differing opinions as to whether or not they significantly improve braking.  Some people have said they improve braking significantly while others say that the difference from new rubber hoses is insignificant. 
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78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
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80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
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« Reply #166 on: January 03, 2024, 08:02:04 AM »
over the years, "IF" I needed new brake hoses I would compare the price with stock versus braided. Can't say I've noticed a huge difference if pads are good and rubber hoses are in good shape.  On a race course there is probably a noticeable difference.
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« Reply #167 on: January 03, 2024, 11:03:12 AM »
Go with the cost benefit.....either way, the hoses will possibly outlast you, and all of us, at this stage.
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« Reply #168 on: January 03, 2024, 02:27:09 PM »


   Brake upgrades to my '74 Norton [SS Brake line and upgraded master cylinder] and BMW R100GS [SS braided brake line] have both vastly improved the braking capability as well as the 'feel'. Among th best money I've spent on these 2 bikes has involved SS brake line kit. 
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 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
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« Reply #169 on: January 09, 2024, 06:21:09 PM »
So I’ve looked around a bit for braided brake lines to fit the CB750.  Sets are available that are reasonably priced.  Problem is that the reviews are not that good. Apparently some of them don’t fit all that well. 

Years ago I had some regular rubber lines made for one of my Kawasakis at Greenline Hose in Vancouver.  They did them while I waited and were only marginally more expensive than Z1 Enterprises.  I called them up today to see if they still did stuff like that.  The answer was no.  They’ve sold all of that equipment chain wide and no longer do it at all. The fellow suggested Gregg Distributors in Langley. 

So I called Gregg to see if they would make braided lines for me.  They would.  I asked for a ballpark price.  Anywhere from $50-$100 each.  So at some point, I’ll take in my old lines to see what it would cost and how long it would take.  The brakes on the CB750 need all the help they can get.
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80 Suzuki TS250
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73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750


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« Reply #170 on: January 09, 2024, 06:25:18 PM »
I have used "Russel" lines in the past. Buy the correct length and the banjo's that will work for you application. Harley dealers sometimes keep some Russel stock.
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« Reply #171 on: January 09, 2024, 07:28:53 PM »
Not sure what you mean.  Do you buy the line cut to length and construct them yourself?
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75 Honda CB750K5
80 Suzuki TS250
 ? Yamaha Maxim 550
73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750


Current ride:
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Current project:
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« Reply #172 on: January 10, 2024, 08:22:28 AM »
Russell lines come with AN fittings on each end. You buy the banjo from them and screw the line onto it.

Mopac will have Russel brake lines, i've bought them there before.
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« Reply #173 on: January 10, 2024, 09:50:27 AM »
I used these guys for custom length, black Stainless Steel Braided lines for my Voyager: http://www.apexbrakes.com  Very competitive prices, quick turn around, and they're in Canada.
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« Reply #174 on: January 10, 2024, 10:15:45 AM »
I have used HEL brake lines on several bikes, including my Wee Strom, '79 GS750, and '77 CB750.   Work fine, fit well.  Most bike shops can get them.  In all cases, I ordered rubber-covered SS braided lines, look OEM.
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« Reply #175 on: January 10, 2024, 05:01:07 PM »
I just took a look at the HEL website.  Not a bad price $119.  I think I’ll see what the price would be from the local Gregg Distributors in Langley.  I’ll support local if at all possible.

Actually $119 +$4 for black heat shrink cover +$6.20 for tax, total $130 round number.  Seems shipping is included from Calgary.
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75 Honda CB750K5
80 Suzuki TS250
 ? Yamaha Maxim 550
73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750


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« Reply #176 on: January 11, 2024, 09:35:46 AM »
Quote from: Bucko on January 10, 2024, 09:50:27 AM
I used these guys for custom length, black Stainless Steel Braided lines for my Voyager: http://www.apexbrakes.com/default.asp.  Very competitive prices, quick turn around, and they're in Canada.

Hey Dave,

I tried the link.  Looks like maybe they don’t exist anymore.
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Past rides:
75 Honda CB750K5
80 Suzuki TS250
 ? Yamaha Maxim 550
73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750


Current ride:
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« Reply #177 on: January 11, 2024, 09:38:14 AM »
Quote from: Galactica on January 10, 2024, 05:01:07 PM
I just took a look at the HEL website.  Not a bad price $119.  I think I’ll see what the price would be from the local Gregg Distributors in Langley.  I’ll support local if at all possible.

Actually $119 +$4 for black heat shrink cover +$6.20 for tax, total $130 round number.  Seems shipping is included from Calgary.

So I asked HEL about shipping cost.  $15+tax.  That brings the cost up to $150 round numbers.  When I get ‘round to it, I’ll check at Gregg Distributors in Langley.  If they’ll do it for that price I’ll get them there.  I’ll bring in the original lines, so should be a guaranteed fit. 
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Past rides:
75 Honda CB750K5
80 Suzuki TS250
 ? Yamaha Maxim 550
73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750


Current ride:
2019 Yamaha Tracer900

Current project:
1975 Honda CB750K5
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« Reply #178 on: January 13, 2024, 02:22:49 PM »
Quote from: Galactica on January 11, 2024, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: Bucko on January 10, 2024, 09:50:27 AM
I used these guys for custom length, black Stainless Steel Braided lines for my Voyager: http://www.apexbrakes.com/default.asp.  Very competitive prices, quick turn around, and they're in Canada.

Hey Dave,

I tried the link.  Looks like maybe they don’t exist anymore.

Ya, something weird with that link. Try this one: http://www.apexbrakes.com
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« Reply #179 on: January 13, 2024, 08:33:06 PM »
https://www.charlies-place.com/shop/brake-line-kits/
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'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS

Previous Garage Residents
 1966 Keystone Tas 50
 1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
 1966 BSA 250 Starfire
 1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
 1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
 1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
 1982 Suzuki SP500
 1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
 1979 Honda CBX
 1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
 1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
 1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
 1993 BMW R100GSPD
 1984 Honda CR500
 1979 Honda CBX sandcast
 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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