I bought these in Munich in 2014 for a European trip. They fit tight then, Euro size 56, which is 38, but fit small, more like 36. Bought the optional waterproof liner as well. With those installed, more like a 35.  I wore them for the 3 week ride, never wore them since. I can't seem to find the knee pads, hence the free price. Has hip pads installed. A shame I'll never fit them again, high quality. Black with reflective grey leather across legs. As new condition.